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i'm suspended...

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Scumbag -

why... i don't know...
co-op... maybe. not aware of this.

Jolton.... reconcider...

I play at home and at work if possinle.... also, playn atn phone
dif ip's....


it's not fair

Jolten -

You were advised why you were suspended.
I won't reconsider.

Your tribe and bulbys tribe logged in from the same IP seconds apart and opped the same tribe. I've inquired about the same issue previously and was advised it was only a coincidence and nothing more.

2nd and 3rd time it's no longer a coincidence.

Jolten -

Login IP tracking on 70.209.147.140
Userid IP Logins Check:
16735 70.209.147.140 10 Tribe IPs
10954 70.209.147.140 3 Tribe IPs


Crosslogging is not allowed. Please refer to the CoC if you have any questions.

~ Jolten


Exact email I sent to both yourself and to bulby.

Scumbag -

i logon from home, from work and from my phone, or when im in thailand..... whenever i can ,all differend IP's.... !
Never had problems before until you came....

Jolten -

The problem is 2 accounts from 2 separate alliances logged in and I'd the same tribe. One with MVs the other DMs just seconds apart.

It's not up for debate my friend.

Scumbag -

How can i do that...?
something is very wrong.....

Kingk88 -

Lol caught. But is the tribe in question that was at the receiving end of the MV and DMs your own tribe Jolten?

Jolten -

KingK88 to answer your question no it was not.

Scumbag -

@Jolton, very wrong decision.....

I wasn't aware of any kind of co-opping....

Kingk88 -

Thanks for the clarification. Would suck if all the admins / coders etc were in the same alliance and cross checking attacks etc abusing there power in some way .

Has the idea of having 2 tribes ever been discussed ? Basically double the player base obviously there would need to be rules in place like doing Intel for yourself on 1 account then logging in to different account and abusing that way . Would be fun to play an attacker and mage [:|]

Jolten -

Explain why it is wrong

Scumbag -

because you are wrong...

tribe, in question, in 26 deleted his account.

Edit: 2017-06-26 17:37:40 »« Hoard Monger deleted his or her tribe.

Jolten -

Just because bulby deleted his account after being paused doesn't change the fact that his account and yours we're logged in from the same IP at essentially the same time.

Scumbag -

damn,, im in the netherlands atm..... how can he use the same IP?

Scumbag -

he created a new account in the same alli..... not paused. !!!

Quote
2017-06-26 17:37:40 »« Hoard Monger deleted his or her tribe.
2017-06-26 17:27:41 «» A new player has joined our alliance

Sanzo -

Scumbag:

Don't give your login and password to other players.

You can change your password in options > profile settings [;)]
http://alliancesatwar.com/preferences/profile/

I assume that new account will be paused

Scumbag -

thanks for advise, butI i already changed my password...

still not agree with MR Jolten decision!

Smokey -

You say “essentially” the same time, but without logs, how do we know? Even if they both opped end of tick, everyone knows we're all gunning for #24 anyway as top dog, so it's bound to happen in the course of only have so many targets to choose from.

You claim they matched the same IP, but we have nothing but your word on this. It's just your word verses theirs, and Scumbag is saying he did nothing wrong. (Bulby has informed me similarly.) You've provided no session data or logs to corroborate your story.

I'm very curious as to how devs/ops decide anything and why there is not a step by step case layed out, so as to not anger the player base.

Jolten -

Smokey... If max says I can I have no problem providing the logs.

It actually benefited my alliance to let the issue go but I couldn't do such.

Scumbag -

MR Jolten,

I've playing this game from almost the beginning... (after the beta version) mayby you were not born that time...lol,

but now you are really wrong...VERY WRONG !!!

Jolten -

I've been playing since beta 2 scumbag. As I've advised you already via PM.

Scumbag -

YOU ARE WRONG, VERY WRONG..... !!!!

MAKE ME ACTIVE AGAIN !!!!

Jolten -

These are the IPs scumbags have signed in from followed by the count of logins.


IP summary for user-id 10954 (last 7 days)
IP Logins
213.197.41.212 27
188.206.104.69 3
70.209.147.140 3
188.206.106.165 1

Login IP tracking on 70.209.147.140
Userid IP Logins Check:
16735 70.209.147.140 10 Tribe IPs
10954 70.209.147.140 3 Tribe IPs

That shows Bulby and Scumbag accounts being logged into from the same IP

2017-06-26 11:07:50 18 dragons rage through your tribe destroying 210 acres of residential and cultivated land.
2017-06-26 11:07:50 Our mystics have detected 24 failed Dragonmage spells coming from Sleep long and prosper (#14).
2017-06-26 11:03:31 3 dragons rage through your tribe destroying 36 acres of residential and cultivated land.
2017-06-26 11:03:31 Our mystics have detected 2 failed Dragonmage spells coming from Hoard Monger (#26).


There's a sample of the news generated from ops/spells coming from bulby and scumbags tribe.

Do I need to provide further proof smokey ?

Scumbag -

Same IP, i don't see...

michelob -

Why does this remind me of Pirate deleting a bunch of people as multis' because they had AOL accounts.

Scumbag -

As i told before, im playing at home, at work if possible, and when im abroad,,,
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