# thieves to send on each op = your acreage
Send many ops

okay, thanks, i thought that it worked like, the more i send per op the better. thanks for clearing it up for me

It does work the way you think it does, Draas. More thieves = more land claimed, contrary to what the manual states.

but thats strange since im getting the same land, even less land now than when i was sending less thieves, at a smaller size i send out 75k thieves total and got like 25-40+ acres at times, now i send 150k and get 28-33 acres 5 times in a row, doesnt make much sense to me

Yeah, so sending all your thieves works best. However, 50k at 3k and 100k at 6k give the same amount of thieves per acre. So if you keep 50k thieves while you grow to 6k, your gains will go down all the time.

hmm okay i see, so the only way, as i understand it, to gain land compared to my size is to let my tpa grow as well, so for instance say 20 tpa at 5k acres and 30 tpa at 6k and 40 tpa at 7k and so on, is that right?

yes, I believe you understand it correctly - but beware of becoming troop fat if you are going to employ that strategy.

Actually, doesn't the higher TPA make for better gains? :P
The same TPA gives the same gains, but having 50 TPA at 3k acres, means you have 25 TPA at 6k acres without training more thieves.

Yeah. And I believe your gains will decrease when you get bigger anyway (because you generally get relatively more space for thieves when you get bigger).

sanzi, 2 days ago

1800 acres required
Difficulty: Hard
Thieves required: 1 per own acre
+2.75 acres per operation sent (on average)

# thieves to send on each op = your acreage
Send many ops
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*i always send a tad over my acreage if running many ops in a row (to guarantee i meet acreage reqs even as land is coming in... although, really have no idea if this is actually necessary or not)[/i]

beyond that, everything past snazzi's first response here makes absolutely no sense to me.

i know exacly how LC hows

its all about your TPA

if your 1800acers and have 50tpa sending all in 1 op will average about 137 acers . same as being 20,000acers with 50TPA

so the resone you started getting less acers is cus you got more land making your tpa go down witch makes your gains less

iv done many LC in my days what seem to work best for me is sending all the tpa you wana send in 1 op . yes you might fail compleatly for time to time you seem to get more this way .

the biggest LC iv seen was about 400-500 acers i cant remember it was about 100tpa sent in 1 op and i beleave it was jokerfly and you can get that much at 1800acers or 20,000acers your size dose not matter what so ever only your TPA


hope this helps out :)

Joker got a 597 acre LC once, and wayhigh is correct it is all based on your tpa, just send one op with your tpa for best results ;)

Does half as much tpa count as exactly half of land gain? So would 2 ops of 50tpa each be equal to one op of 100 tpa?

nope

what do you mean send ONE op?? that makes absolutely no sense.

The amount of acres gained depends on how much TPA you send.

more TPA = more acres

You can get above average and below average. If you're really lucky, you can get an above average gain rate (say 4-5 acres per TPA)

Multiply that by how much TPA you sent on the operation.

Its like TA. Average is 20cr, but max is 100.
Sending multiple operations will yield the average (and about 30% will fail), while sending all on one operation will yield whatever figure was chosen.

define “one operation”?

So if you're at 4k acres with 30 tpa and you send 80,000 thieves in 1 succesful op (equivalent to 20 tpa) you would get 80-100 acres? Assuming 4-5 acres average. Is that correct? Coz the guide says “per op sent” not “per tpa sent”.

the guide is not really accurate for LC to be honest....LC is actually based on your tpa not how many ops you send...sending 1 op will always get you more (not counting fails) then sending multiple ops.
btw Wolfbrother if you are a thief there is no way in hell you should ever be as low as 30tpa

lol... That was just an example.

Ah, so it's actually like TA. Thanks Buffy.

yea it does work a lot like TA

I didnt say 4-5 acres per TPA was average, I said “if you are lucky”