I think BC should count towards it because HnR is too restricted. once an UD gets big there are limited people he can HnR.

Also, Sorte killing about 10k citizens gives you 1k RP which will decay fast so it's not always going to be as helpful as you think because 1k/30k is .033 RPA assuming ur in a an alliance w/ 30k acres.

I guess it comes down to does the RP u get by sacrificing citizens go straight into alliance RP or does it become the UD's personal RP?

it is called stock piling. you stock pile your rp's until the alliance has enough to max out, counting what you have as well towards that total. then you invest sometimes use some common sense. you are such a great player with such great knowledge i shouldn't have to spell out the obvious everytime for you.

Ok but you can't stock pile if the RP goes straight into the alliance RP buddy. It'll automatically start decaying. Don't comment on my playing abilities and knowledge if you don't fully understand the other person's post. My playing abilities are fine and i'm sure people that know who I am would agree that I'm a good player.

i understand your post. you know how to figure out a math problem i am very proud of you.

but the need to have someone break down every comment and point they make is upsurd. a good player would know if they have only 1.5k rp's you don't invest them. so your attempted cheap shot at me to say it is a waste as if to say i had no clue what i am talking about.

so from now on i promise every post i make that involves some sort of game conversation in it i will add footnotes just for you. so you can read them in full before throwing out game mechanics at me as if to say i were some dumbass who doesn't have a clue.


* i understand how and when to invest. i understand the decay of rp's and know they are not permanent. i know i have to continue to attack in order to build a stock pile to help my alliance when it comes time to invest our rp's to help our growth and my own.*

now for the obvious if the rp's were to be directly invested for the elder to purchase that would be in the races description i would assume. so since it is not, my first guess would tell me they would go directly to me to be invested when i chose to invest them.

*wich means if i attack someone as a undead and gain more citizens then i can house i would have to sacrifice them and would have to hold onto the rp's until i am ready to invest the rp's so the rp's don't decay or become a waste of time and rp's.*

everyone knows when to invest that's obvious. You're just lacking the understanding that race descriptions are made my OTHER humans not perfect machines, it's amazing. They don't always include every bit of detail in the race description. Ex. Mori hai thieves produce food even when they are out on ops but that isn't written in the race description. Templars LOSE their ML when they send out clerics but that isn't written in the description. Dwarves don't need homes but that isn't written in the description. Ravens can't be Wind of Distressed but that isn't written in the description.

Need I go on?

Thus basically, we can't assume that just because it isn't written doesn't mean that it isn't so. In fact, if you can stockpile it, it could be kind of OP because you can just sacrifice 50-100k citizens into RP and u'd eventually get them back in 2 - 5 ticks. Then you do it again and get ur citizens back. and if you keep doing it over and over just imagine how much RP you'd get per day. In that case, it would actually make MORE sense if the RP went straight into the alliance RP to stop it from being OP.

I think your the one who needs footnotes...

PS: Why are you such a dick? I was politely commenting about how it depends on if the RP goes straight into alliance or it becomes personal RP. And I even had a fun smiley . Your hostility is unwarranted and ... just makes u a dick.

PSS: I don't mean anything against the staff, they're doing a good job :). I just mean that every human sometimes forgets something here and there or feels that somethings are to be derived and not needed to be put in the description that's all .

i am being a dick because every time i make a comment or try to make a point you have to come along and try and call me out as if to say i have no clue on what i am discussing and it irritates me.

when i say growth, you have to pick apart each and every letter of the word. when i am using the word to cover genral ground without breaking down each and every letter. sometimes people just want to make their comments and points without being a machine and throwing numbers around and game mechanics around.

I didn't once call you out to say that you have no idea what you're talking about. Re-read:

you said you had a strat. I said “somethin to think about, BC”

you said “why in gods name wud u BC”. I said “said why in gods name wudn't u then gave my reason.”

you said “you don't think thieves are army”. I said “i think they are/shud be b/c ... (my reason)”

you said “raids have a growth factor...” I said “yea raids do have a growth factor but BC wud be better if thieves counted as army”

you said “yea but you can release the citizens for RP”. Joe confirmed that BC doesn't count as army killed. so I said “ok i guess it depends on if it goes straight into alliance RP or personal RP, because if it goes into alliance RP it isn't that helpful”


I dont see one time where i said you have no idea what ur talkin about. And the whole point of them posting the new races is for us to discuss them to see if we see flaws and for other players to get a better understanding... they're supposed to be discussed.

OMG, am I the only one here who knows that immortals lose units on BC?

i know it aswell :P

no but some of us dont care

So who in their right mind would choose BC over standard? ... Or HnR for that matter...

if im bigger, id take bc over hnr, and for mag/thf heavy tribes id use bc

Do what you wish... But standard would be better

all depends on the situation

standard wud only be better if you want acres. Even though you lose immortal units in a BC i think it'd be better than a standard.

Ofc none of this matters since BC killed thieves don't count...

why not HnR kill lots of units and don't loose elites, same attack time as well, or just raid, 2h less attack time and don't loose elites.

cause HnR can't be used after u get bigger than a majority of the pop. + u piss of bigger tribes while u don't have elendian or SoD.

if thats ur opinion then raid would be more useful. cus u can't grab urself landfat :P

yea raid is probably ur best bet. But i still think the thieves killed by BC should count :P.

I don't know why u guys don't trust me on this... I'm not trying to trick you or anything
Standard and HnR are best... end of story.

HnR might give u the most vamps, but if u accidentally HnR in WM then u'r gna hve fun :P. Or if u get really big and there aren't that many ppl left to HnR.

HnR is 2h extra attack time, so I'm not sure it beats raid, depends on how much more HnR kills

You guys are noobs

bcus I'm saying that I'm not sure that HnR beats raid?

he's just probably using “sanzo vision” to notice something else like the way he noticed immortals die using BC , but this time he isn't saying what it is :P