And why was KP going to kick you out? Because you didn't listen and take their advice?

Also, even after your whole 6 account debacle didn't 71 and Cecil take you in under their wing? I don't know what happened there but you could have learned a lot from them and I'm sure they weren't unaware of your past misdeeds. Why did you quit that shop?

that wouldve been lying sonix which is what im trying not to do

it was something cecil said

I agree that he shouldn't have lied about his identity. What he should have done was just eat his helping of humble pie and learn under 71's wing.

I don't know what Cecil said but it might possibly have been for your own good. That's my hunch. And you couldn't take it. But here I am making assumptions.

No it wouldn't have been lying at all. Let's look at it:



do you not think of urself as a decent player?



did you not want to make an alliance? You aren't saying “I'm not kalten” but with a new name, no one would even ask you if you were.

Edit: “Kalten” is an online persona who has a bad name now. If you really have changed and aren't going to do anything like multi's it isn't lying to create a new persona and have a fresh start.

...it wouldn't have been outright lying, but it wouldn't have been much better.

i want to make an alliance but im not a decent vet player

Well you're still here. So once again, you are unable to listen. If you don't want to be a douche, stop posting here. Delete. Make a new hotmail account. Join in as a brand new name.. like Dave or something. Sit in a bootcamp or whatever random alliance you get put in for a few days until this cools down.

Then ask some elders with positions open if they are looking for recruits. Don't say anything about former identity. Lie if you have to. Say you're a new player that has had a little bit of experience, looking to join a good alliance to become a stronger player. Etc.

and what about my team now?

If you're already in an alliance, that isn't kicking you out, then this entire thread was unnecessary.

You made it seemed like no one would take you

Raam i don't agree with that solely because of the situation. If he was creating a new persona and doing the same wrong things then, yes it would be bad. But if he's looking for a new start without people giving him trouble, then I don't see anything wrong with that. He isn't tricking anyone he is just giving himself a chance to show that he's changed. Later, if he wants, he can reveal he is kalten and show people that he's different based on all he has accomplished with the new name.

Also, honestly, if you want to make a good competitive alliance on your own, you probably need to be well-learned and ATLEAST a decent vet. If i was you, I'd join an experienced alliance willing to take you and learn about alliance play -- NOT just how to grow big yourself.

Alliance play will require you to give up things like the number 1 rank in personal rankings or faster growth so the alliance can be better together.

well if they really want to be with you they can join up with the alliance you end up joining if there are enough spots.

Fine! have it your way

Pre-infinity, I used to take on personas during “off-ages” where I could slack in smaller, less-competitive alliances like PiG and Origin without attaching my name to it. I took on a new name, and just went with it. It's very easy in this game to make a new identity.

i think based on kaltens last post he rage quited...again...

his problem is that hes had multiple numerous chances to change his ways but instead spits in the faces of those helping him and just jumps alliances

actions speak louder then words..take a break from the forums and focus on yourself and your gameplay...be respectful to veterans that are willing to help you and you will be fine.

actually i havent yet

“yet”

im doing what im told

if i were u, since apaullo is presumably either joined or joining u guys id listen to him, i know hes played a long time

he joined raam

lol Apaullo joined us :(

Apaullo's with us :)

i agree with canadian1. like i said earlier let sleeping dogs lie. ignore the posts, ignore the comments. quit defending yourself to every bit of critisim made against you. you put yourself in this position, you made a mistake. you admited your wrong doing and asked for forgiveness. let time do it's job.

take our advice and let it be so it can be forgotten in time.