the only part that hes admitted wrong is the multi-ing, hes still rage quitting, jumping alliances, and refuses advice or twists it to perform the others

All Cecil said was for Kalten to stop restarting his tribe.. he would _{go an attacking DE} a funny race setup, fail, restart, try _{a Mage Viking} another odd race setup, again fail and restart. Rinse repeat.
That's what I got from it anyway. It may have been said in caps lock, but granted, it was the only way to actually get the point across to stop fooling around, and actually listen to the alliance.

-and add a splash of sarcasm with the race specs.

i think he is trying to find a place where he can start over, a place where he will fit in. he admited his wrong doing and is learning how serious it was. probally most likely taking it hard how he is being treated. i don't think he expected it and is a bit over whelmed by it all. i think if an alliance is going to bring him in knowing his past then they are obviously willing to give him a second chance, and that is how it should be treated. a fresh new start let him prove himself that he is willing to play fairly like the rest of us.

i don't know about the rage quiting other then what i have read here in this post from others. so i really can't comment on that.

if i had know he was trying to go mage vike i would booted him myself

Hey don't underestimate conjured focus cecil. DM is pretty baller, too :P

Well was he trying to do viking w/ mage as a supplement or non-attacker mage viking?

thats the thing...you have to be able to listen to the vets...they know how to use races a certain way because they have been through this before...if a vik mage was awesome...you would see vik mages out there...but you dont...you are not going to discover anything better then how races are being played by vets...im sorry...independance is good when your playing by yourself...but when you are comprimising your ally mates you have to listen...

-eh, I was being super sarcastic on the race setups. But, he was doing some funny stuff and not listening to elders and others.

that woulda been before conjured was implemented for the most part

not to mention he whined for 4h about how he lost 500 fame failing to attack the same brit with his entire offense out, without even calcing what needed to be sent

i don't disagree with a player playing his tribe the way he wishes. you have to learn by making mistakes. i don't agree with constant reseting, but it is his tribe if he wishes to constantly reset to find a race he likes and understands. it may be frustrating to his mates, but it the long run would be more productive for the alliance.

but then again there is a guide to look over each races units and specs to help give some insight to what they are about and what they specialize in.

i don't see nothing wrong with experimenting i do it from time to time. espeacially when trying a new race, but i figure out what will and will not work quickly enough to make the proper changes immediately.

um i thought this was a question thread not to be rude or anything just thought i might state that

experiment solo, if ur misplaying a race it hurts the alli

btw dev ork is awesome for finding out all the variations of what races can do, and it has the insta update button, ty bolle for the promotion

if you dont want other opinions then ask questions.

umm, if u dont want our opions *“DONT” ask questions.lol

thanks Cecil! hahaha

np, see i dont discriminate, if someone does something stupid, no offense canadian, ill make fun

well for ages i played raven. then asked to play different roles so i took on new races. i asked if i wasn't sure about the race yes even as a vet of the game i asked about how and what worked with a race. but 99% of the time i had some understanding from fighting the different races. i believe if not mistaken i had difficult time with balrog. i did a lot of experimenting to try and get that race right, in the end i reset and went dwarf instead. i experimented with the whole no homes thing do a tri class thing. after several days i realized no way this is going to work as i hoped and did away with thievery and stuck to attacking and casting.

in my eyes it hurts the alliance if the player can not make the proper adjustments quick enough. nor see what is not working and why and correct the issues fast enough. a seasoned player can figure out a new strat quickly enough and see if it is going to work quickly enough to not hurt his mates nor him or herself.

none take cecil lol...you have to be able to laugh at your mistakes and take any criticism as constructive..that is all we are trying to teach you kalten...lol its funny that I had to make a mistake to try and teach a lesson hahaha.

this is a big thread

happens, usually its either a heated topic or comedic thread that goes through fast

yep

So kalten I have a question for you...what have you learned from this? what are you going to do to make your stay here better?

dont lie dont jump play fair listen and respect ur elders and run under the radar from now on its called BOOTCAMP baby!

Uh... about that under the radar thing? You just narrowed down where you are again.

if you follow all those things you will have a lot more fun and after learning in bootcamp you will be an asset to someones ally!