Well, one thing he did hit on the head, is it's so hard to have active players act as Jury-Judge-and Executioner. In the past, admins with the final say were always an arm-stretch away from the game. I was always able to have Martel or fr0st interfere when the staff were making bad decisions based on inherent bias. (Which happened multiple times, in which they did in fact interfere. So yes, it does happen).

Currently, we have no such thing. In fact, we have no TRUE admin. There is no real check or balance for staff to do as they please, and drive the game further into the ground.

exactly, there is no seperation. almost every online game similar to this one i have played, staff and players did not work together as this game does.

if there were changes made to the game it was not discussed with the players they were made and a list was posted in a non reply forum. you had to live with the changes the staff made like it or not. the changes were made to keep balance not push the weight to benefit one side of the scale.

some players were forum monitors and that was it. you did not have them control other aspects of the game such as over seeing law and order issues. that came down to the owners. not massed voice opinions and low forum monitors or their pal and friends.

also the staff did not play the game they stayed out of the politics arena set by the players, and they stayed off the battlefield to avoid issues like these. they had accounts but behind the scenes to work on bugs, changes ect. their accounts never came into play or mixed with the players. unlike here where staff members playing and being in powerhouse alliances. now i am not say they shouldn't be playing, but they shouldn't be part of the staff if they chose to follow the path of in game politics and fight on the battlefield. there is never a fair judgement made. it will always go in their favor, no matter the case. yet they will be quick to deal with others for the same punishable offense and swiftly act as they should. while over looking and ignoring their friends and ally mates doing the same punishable offense. they also stayed clear of befriending players. if you knew them in real life that was different but a distance was kept to keep the game play fair for all.

only one other game i played went down this road and in the end. where does it stand now? gone and forgotten and this is the same path orkfia is headed down.

players want to own the game i say awsome but to be part of the game in the sense of a player and get involved with in game politics i bow my head in disgust.

a true admin staff member can't be both.

Although you are correct that most of the staff plays the game and that the players play a role in discussing changes, it's something that you should take into account when signing up to play the game. The first lines in the guide and i think on the front page are:



While I understand that you might have a problem with this type of set up, there are many players who also love being able to share their ideas and actually have their ideas taken into account and used as appropriate.

Secondly, in reference to bias and what not, most of our alliance doesn't know anyone from LnO personally so I'm sure their judgement is purely unbias. In fact, before I made my return a little while ago, I wasn't in any top named alliances for the most part with the exception of 2 ages or so in core many years back.

well there should an added note.

we also play the game, decide players fates in our favor. we take care of our own and the rest can go scratch. so thank you for signing up to orkfia, enjoy the one sided experience.

I'm sure the many alliances that have staff playing with them will attest to the fact that, even though they part of the alliance, if someone from their alliance did something against the CoC, they would act fairly as a member of the staff and the punishment would be just as harsh.

There have been many times where I was just joking about something in the ally channel and that staff member in our alliance didn't take kindly to that even though it was just a joke.

I'm truly sorry about w/e you experienced in the past that makes you feel like the staff has been bias (I just recently joined, so I'm not speaking for them, just for me) and I absolutely promise you that I haven't been part of any attempt before to co-op against you.

recently joining funny, like i said we take care of our own.

you were when i was in 32 and in 55 so you can play i don't remember game to avoid problems it may bring you. but you and i both know your alliance along with several outside players had a field day trying to kill me a few months back when i was in 55, and you had a field day helping kalten when i was in 32 and your alliance was 3 players strong one of them being kalten mean while he was in 31 the alliance 32 was at war with at the time.

the past is the past you got away with your actions and now your part of the staff. while one of my ally mates was punished for an offense you yourself took part of then and now with 37 against myself and against my mate before you went into war.

like i said staff and players should not be interacting on such a level. it is the downfall this game is facing and you proudly stand by it. wich causes me to lose even more respect for you.

Ok see I already know you are mistake because all kalten did in our alliance was reset 3 times. He never got past 80k strength or 500 acres. Then we defected him and he joined 55 or w/e alliance Devil's Reject was running. Also, we have never been only 3 players. When I created the alliance it was just me and raam, then we got 3 of our other friends to join so we went from 2 to 5 right away. Then we recruited a guy named Donracs and after that we finally got kalten. I don't know anything about 32, ever since I played they were a bunch of resource farm tribes. As for 55, it might help if you told me ur tribe name, otherwise I don't really rmbr setting a KT against anyone in 55.

we were never resource farms. and i think some of my mates from from 32 who still play can back that.

see you remember who i am. now go back and explain to me why 47 and several other outside players all of a sudden after kalten being caught decided it was needed to kill me. explain to me why others who were involved where from outside the alliance of 47 and all were assualts to kill me all done at the same exact time. funny i was told it was just coinencdence when the reports i sent in clearly showed the attempted kt. funny it was ignored because some of those players were in alliances where staff memebers were, possibly involved since i can't say that for sure cause i don't know whos tribe is who in outside alliances.

yes you had 5 players but only 3 were active, yourself, ramm and another tribe wich i believe to be was kalten. since it could be the only explination since 32 was at war with 31 and out of no where ally 47 players attacked me right after verberally getting into it with several players in 31. wich shortly after those attacks and verberal argueing now with 47 i was killed. funny the players in 47 aided in my death and i was told oh no it wasn't co oping it was just mere coiencedence. there were other alliances involved (basically alliances kalten had accounts in) as well but you are the one i am putting into question, since you are so against it when it hurts you and are all for it when it doesn't. and since only active players and general ramm obvious which tribe is his. i can rule out him being involved, so it left two tribes yourself and that third tribe wich like i said believed was kalten.


now i am in 31 and find out yourself and players in 37 went after my mate, and you guys just happen to go into war and he is found guilty for actions you yourself had just made against him with your people in 37. now i decided to to make it a 5-2 instead of 5-1 cause i take my mates back like that.

and now all of a sudden 37 and 47 decide time to kill me all within a tick and a half 37 beat me down to nothing and 47 moved in the final blow. but that is not co oping or aiding or planning. yet you yourself laughed and said we had planned the attack for several ticks later than when it occured. i guess because you thought i would now shut my mouth instead of coming forward and to save your own ass the story changes and it becomes oh it was meant to be my alliance not 37 yet 37 did the brunt of the job while 47 finished it off.

so yeah it is a one sided fairness, we can do it, but you can't

yeah we were no resource farms in 32 ;)

good luck vertigo!

LOL you're devils reject?? As in the guy who raged quit because he kept suiciding and wonder why he kept getting hit back??

ok I can answer this no need for Sonix to do so. 1) all 5 of us were active. I was one of the 5 and I'm sure jolten in 19 can vouch that all 5 of us were active since we had a war against them.

Anyway the reason we all attacked you and eventually killed you was simple. You were a raven. You grabbed one of us, BUT you missed the tick. Just in case you don't know.. every raven is ALWAYS constantly scouted by all alliances. As in, the second they saw you online after the tick, I'm sure everyone did a Fly over to see if you missed the tick. Since you MISSED the tick you had 0 military home. Since you had 0 military home, you were an easy target for EVERYONE to get land off of. because you got hit so many times, we decided that we wud just kill you since you wud probably have 200 citizens left, but just in case we opped. Apparently, (i think it was Rookies) were thinking the same thing and they beat us too the kill after the tick. The end.

There was no co-oping, the LnO were right. A raven who misses the tick is a raven who isn't likely to survive till the next one. it's common knowledge.

funny you say that only one or two intel ops were ran on me and it came from 47 at the start of the assualt and i wasn't playing raven at the time, it was after that i chose to go back to raven since i decided a restart was necassary and i chose raven because that is a race i am skiled with, and when i chose to leave 55 i was still a raven before joining 31 and played eagle once again.

i never suicided anyone i take that back back in the old days of classic i did, but i got wise and more skilled and never had to suicide again.

rage quit, no wrong person. i quit for reasons that involved issues within the alliance and i was fed up. rage quit no it was more of a hard descion quit.

Ok if you were devil's reject you were definitely a raven when we killed you in w/e alliance you were in before 55. and Devil's reject eventually quit while he was a nazgul. If that wasn't you then I don't know. But I'm absolutely sure that devil's reject was a raven who had 0 military at home.

Also, just because you don't see ops doesn't mean they weren't done. a fly over can be on anyone in the alliance and intercepts can succeed the first try and you wouldn't know that they were done.

i tried nazgul but it didn't last long i didn't like that race. i actually restarted as something else i forget what maybe dwarf or dragon i don't remeber and i wasn't in 55 i was in 32 when i tried nazgul so i think you might be confusing the timeline. wich is not relevant.

i am who you think i am but raven was the final race i chose because i was going to go after some involved for revenge. but i then chose to quit for reasons i chose not to discuss with the public since it was an alliance issue and really no one outsde of the alliances buisness. it was hard descion to make to leave but i felt it was necassary that is all i will say.

back on topic-it still doesn't excuse the present. the past is the past. people got away with their actions and for whatever excuse wants to be applied. while it once again took place involing one of the same players from the past and after he made such a big stink about how my mate co oped into his war. and just because 31 wasn't in a war is no excuse to justify his actions before the war was declared and after it ended. he is just as guilty and his status now in the game reflects why it goes unpunished while another fate was decided the way it was.

it is called favortism and it is one of things destorying orkfia and i will strongly stand by my words in my post made about 2h hours ago regarding the matter.

Ok well now you have us mixed up with someone else because we joined while dragons and dwarves were out of play. And devil's reject was 100% a raven when he was killed by us and whoever else attacked. I know for a fact because we thought it was hilarious that you kept attacking like 30 seconds before the tick. Then you attacked one of us and missed the tick so everyone except sonix attacked you back because sonix was an owl and had no def. I rmbr cause we all laughed at him and told him to always have 1 off unit just in case of ravens, after that he always trained 1. I told you, there was no co-op a raven that missed the tick will be seen by everyone cause it shows up in the alliance news.

I'm sure a good number of people in the game right now will agree about that.

btw are you sure u were in alliance 32 and not alliance 38?

what the hell is going on in here...

now i know your facts are wrong i never attacked 30 seconds before the end of a tick. i always attacked as close as possible to 59:59. about a year ago maybe longer when i came back and rejoined 32 i had an issue with major lag time on my attacks and i was raven where i had to hit attack at 59:54 and sometimes it went right away and others where almost 30 to 40 seconds jumps in time occured it was reported back then and it happened several times after shortly after reporting. but no issues since.

i am positive alliance 32 and i was there for a long time. we merged with another alliance i believe that became 40 somthing and then a final merge with another alliance wich became 55.

i don't remember 38 there is a possibility [DE] may have been 38 before my few year leave but when i returned i was in what ever random for a few days and returned to [DE] it was 32, but i honestly don't really recall a alliance 38 and being in 38 at any time in near present and past.

what is going on here is an attempt to try and change the subject by attempts to ridicule me in public to take focus off the topic at hand.

since it does put a player in question for his actions after pitchin a fit about anothers actions. so what better way then create false account to cover up what really went down.

it don't matter what happened in the past 37 and 47 co oped in my death a few days ago, and 37 and 47 co oped an assulat before their war on one of my mates. who has since been punished for retaliating during a war wich resulted in a 47 player now a staff members death.

Take it away Cecil!

Lol sorry buddy.. I have proof. I just pulled our archives. you were actually in 42 not 32. All of these attacks were so spread out. And after you lost so much land we figured we might as well just kill him. I'm pretty sure [core] I didn't vaca is ur precious Airro too.



As you can clearly see you missed the tick. And oops! guess who was actually the ones who killed you and so called co-oped with us? it wasn't 44 - rookies (sorry guys my mistake). It was the alliance u're currently in.. core.
What do u have to say about that? Pretty much proves u were a raven too doesn't it... how else cud you do this



further more.. here is a vision of you AFTER you died. you went nazgul afterwards. If you can't get ur own intel right how are you supposed to remember other peoples?



And remember this? This was kalten, the tribe that was in our alliance but we defected.



And this is when you deleted your tribe. If you want more proof. I can show you the times in the alliance news when you change ur name from Devils reject to Raguel then Raguel to South Of Heaven. In fact, one of ur old members is in out alliance now. Zana? rmbr him? he's with us.

then that is a different incident, because part of the reason i left had to do with what went down when we were in 55 and 47 and several outside players tag teamed me after kalten was caught for multing. i may have had the same tribe name but the incident i am refering to took place while i was in 55.

the incident you are refering to i some what recall but the incident in 55 was not attacks it was all ops and spells. there were no actual military attacks made against me.

it was a failed kt attempt, and to be told it was just coincedence all these players just happen to all cast and op at the same was protection for friends and ally mates. i know staff were in several of the alliances of players that were involved except for 47 (at least as far as i know there was no staff in 47 at the time).

now like i said for all i know the tribes involved could have been staff may not have been cause i am not sure whos tribe is actually whos, but was aware of the presense of staff in those alliances that were involved.

buddy, i have a record of all the FO from when you joined into 55 all the way till you deleted. No one from 47 attacked you even once. at that point we were all T/ms

plus like i said before the final merge the remaing 32 members merged with another alliance and it was 40 something. and then there was a second merge that resulted in us being alliance 55.

Ok like i just said. I have all the FOs from when you joined into 55 and all the way till you deleted. No one from 47 attacked you. Secondly, you were in 42 not 32.