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@Sanzo, yeah the races is a bit touch and go, also because it's 4 weeks rather than 6.

@Istari, it's good to hear the first complaints about walls being overpowered; when we introduced it an age or so ago it was all “but the damage, the damage!”. We'll keep an eye on it.

I quite excited to the new resets..

If you asked my opinion on the matter, I would say that while walls are overpowered, they should not be worse than they are now.
If we make 2% walls cancels 1% weaponries then people will just get more walls and war will turn into a stalemate with both sides beefing up on protection buildings and not taking the risk of getting guilds or hideouts. This would be especially effective on smaller tribes who would not have enough defense to keep out the attacker.
If I was an attacker in a warring situation, I would keep 25% weaponries if only to scare my opponents into decreasing their firepower output.

I thought walls just increased defense o_O

http://alliancesatwar.com/forums/news/694932/age-71-changes/

Scroll down for wall/weaps changes.

This information can also be found in the wiki.

Yikes.

Oh interesting. Maybe ill run attacker then :D

A couple things:

1. Take the immune to LB trait from Olegs and give it to Nazgul
For the love of god stop giving Oleg buffs. You are devaluing all other races by making them so OP.
2. Raven units are way too expensive. They are both inefficient and expensive. Useless! They should be a fast race give them cheaper units.
3. Owl also their units are horrible. They are too inefficient to be an effective theif. Give their thieves 0/3 or better.

^^^ Agree on all counts, especially 1. Not that immunity to LB is a big buff, but Oleg is already the most overpowered attacker by a significant margin

1. You're overestimating their strength. Their new perk doesn't help during wars, it only nullifies enemy t/m interference with their military. Their 4 hour attack time also affects them more than you'd think in early scuffles with Mori, Nazgul, raven.
2. Nah they aren't. Hint: they have more than one unit type.
3. Owl units are horribly expensive because they have a horribly effective attack speed later on.

tl;dr you may be right about the actual balance but the ideas behind the races are solid, and I usually choose to go with safe rather than sorry. My estimate on Oleg may be off but I don't think so.

Can I get immunity against pillage so it nullifies enemy attackers interfering with my mines/yards/farms and military?

That would be a good t/m trait actually, it fits Eagle.

I'd rather have something that nullifies thieves interfering with my homes.

Thats a silly argument to make. I know you wanna play Oleg and pwn everybody, but I for one don't wanna see half of the players choosing Oleg.
DW and hardar made sarcastic counterarguments to “nullification” that somehow you took seriously?!?!?!

Raven don't have space for more than one unit type!

Owl won't even last until this 'later on' you speak of, and will be outclassed by mori and especially Wood Elf

Although I don't often shed many opinions these days (due to massive slacking), I am disappointed in the race availabilities. Just a random tidbit I'll throw out there. (Yes, I know fewer races make it easier to balance, blah blah. Where's Aldorin?!)

You are kinda getting that with the new changes as arson would be war only.



I was being serious.........


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2016-01-18 18:43:41 someone (#XX) has ravaged our lands and destroyed 77 buildings of commerce.
2016-01-18 18:43:41 A report has been collected, our losses are listed as follows:
Istari killed: 0,
Valar Scions killed: 72
During this invasion pestilence was spread into our lands for 3 months
2016-01-18 18:43:25 Your army has been seduced by the beautiful Enchantress Salem. It has lost its magical advantage in defence for 1 month.
2016-01-18 17:00:00 Pestilence has plagued our citizens. The roads are flooded with the smell of death.
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2016-01-18 15:23:52 someone (#XX) has ravaged our lands and destroyed 50 buildings of commerce.
2016-01-18 15:23:52 A report has been collected, our losses are listed as follows:
Istari killed: 0,
Valar Scions killed: 124
2016-01-18 15:00:00 Pestilence has plagued our citizens. The roads are flooded with the smell of death.
2016-01-18 14:09:11 someone (#XX) has ravaged our lands and destroyed 78 buildings of commerce.
2016-01-18 14:09:11 A report has been collected, our losses are listed as follows:
Istari killed: 0,
Valar Scions killed: 75
During this invasion pestilence was spread into our lands for 3 months
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2016-01-18 14:08:52 Our mystics have detected 3 failed Enchantress Salem spells coming from someone (#XX).
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2016-01-18 11:40:34 A report has been collected, our losses are listed as follows:
Istari killed: 0,
Valar Scions killed: 124
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2016-01-18 01:14:57 someone (#XX) has ravaged our lands and destroyed 78 buildings of commerce.
2016-01-18 01:14:57 A report has been collected, our losses are listed as follows:
Istari killed: 0,
Valar Scions killed: 75
During this invasion pestilence was spread into our lands for 3 months
2016-01-18 01:14:40 Your army has been seduced by the beautiful Enchantress Salem. It has lost its magical advantage in defence for 1 month.
2016-01-18 01:14:40 Our mystics have detected 5 failed Enchantress Salem spells coming from someone (#XX).
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2016-01-17 18:59:46 A report has been collected, our losses are listed as follows:
Istari killed: 0,
Valar Scions killed: 75
2016-01-17 16:00:00 Pestilence has plagued our citizens. The roads are flooded with the smell of death.
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2016-01-17 13:32:39 someone (#XX) has ravaged our lands and destroyed 79 buildings of commerce.
2016-01-17 13:32:39 A report has been collected, our losses are listed as follows:
Istari killed: 0,
Valar Scions killed: 75
During this invasion pestilence was spread into our lands for 3 months
2016-01-17 13:32:22 Your army has been seduced by the beautiful Enchantress Salem. It has lost its magical advantage in defence for 1 month.
2016-01-17 10:00:00 Pestilence has plagued our citizens. The roads are flooded with the smell of death. Some have turned into skeletons and are harassing our mages for tasks.
2016-01-17 09:00:00 Pestilence has plagued our citizens. The roads are flooded with the smell of death.
2016-01-17 08:04:25 someone (#XX) has ravaged our lands and destroyed 76 buildings of commerce.
2016-01-17 08:04:25 A report has been collected, our losses are listed as follows:
Istari killed: 0,
Valar Scions killed: 115
During this invasion pestilence was spread into our lands for 3 months
2016-01-17 08:03:58 Your army has been seduced by the beautiful Enchantress Salem. It has lost its magical advantage in defence for 1 month.
2016-01-17 08:03:58 Our mystics have detected 1 failed Enchantress Salem spell coming from someone (#XX).
2016-01-17 07:00:00 Pestilence has plagued our citizens. The roads are flooded with the smell of death.
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2016-01-17 04:17:20 someone (#XX) has ravaged our lands and destroyed 78 buildings of commerce.
2016-01-17 04:17:20 A report has been collected, our losses are listed as follows:
Istari killed: 0,
Valar Scions killed: 69
During this invasion pestilence was spread into our lands for 3 months
2016-01-17 04:16:54 Your army has been seduced by the beautiful Enchantress Salem. It has lost its magical advantage in defence for 1 month.
2016-01-17 04:16:54 Our mystics have detected 1 failed Enchantress Salem spell coming from someone (#XX).
2016-01-16 20:22:24 someone (#XX) has ravaged our lands and destroyed 50 buildings of commerce.
2016-01-16 20:22:24 A report has been collected, our losses are listed as follows:
Istari killed: 0,
Valar Scions killed: 108

@EM I agree on the number of races, but we'd just decided on reducing it to nine. It's a bit of an issue now. If nothing changes by age 75 feel free to remind me to bring it up.

@Sanzo calling an argument refutal “silly” is not something I can work with. Also, raven DO have room for extra specs since starting military is effectively around 20% of current. Also, I share your concern on Owl but past experiences have led me to be cautious. The whole four-week thing is experimental and makes it quite hard to balance. Still, I'll see what happens before settling on a more definite balance.

Bolle its not my fault you can't take any kind of criticism seriously. You just dismiss it. Now THAT's silly

Raven seems a bit expensive without raiding

5/5 950cr thats 100cr more then now and even now i find it an expensive race

Maybe late age they become good instead of start of the age :)


But only way to see is a live age where everyone plays and look at it after age 74 or even 75

pillage is still usable next round, right? who needs raiding for crowns if you find good pillage targets

@Sanzo Criticism is not dismissed. Rather, it's very valuable feedback that provides me with issues to look out for that I might not otherwise look at.

@michelob Yes, pillage is still useable next round.

@Chaoss, the specs are supposed to be Raven's early game domination. The expensive elites are supposed to actually slow them down later on and (hopefully) force them to give their place as #1 to other attacker races in at least the final week of the age.

What day does the age end?

Age 73 (this age) will end 29th Jan 23:59:59

Age 74 we are not sure when it will end yet precisely but it will be 4 wks after it starts.

I was just rereading the upcoming changes, and as a new guy playing thief right now, it seems like thieves took a major kick in the pants for usefulness outside war. Only self ops and ambush? So the only time you can be aggressive is if you have recently been attacked, by someone besides a raven since they're already home.
Mages still get to wreck all sorts of buildings in peacetime and can at least retaliate some. Thieves get to do recon. It seems like if you want to play thief, you also have to play attacker or mage to build any fame.